Subject	My 2 cents on the side by side test :)
Posted by	Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on May 03, 2004 at 11:20 PM
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In Reply To	Dyno-schymno. (How's that for technical terminolgy? :)) >>> posted by Scotts94z32 on May 03, 2004 at 06:33 PM
Message	We have apples and oranges here....... You can not test 2 cars for spool that are going the same speed with one having lower gearing...... LOL The car with the lower gearing is moving the same speed , But it is in a much higher RPM band and accelerates to the next higher RPM band quicker as well. The car with the lower gearing here also had a smaller turbo that spools faster besides being in a higher RPM band that the turbos spool better with to start with. Try this test the other way around by starting Scott's car in 3rd at 40mph and Gerald's car in second. Naturally Gerald's car will pull away like crazy.....That is not a fair test either ;) You simply can not test 2 cars with different gearing to find out what spools better. Even on a dyno Scott's car will show it spools faster with both of them in 4th gear because the lower gear ratio will easily spin the dyno drum faster. Gearing plays a much larger roll them most people realize.
Follow Ups	My future turbo set up. GMS 500HP Turbo and GD manifolds - kx12577 17:37:40 05/03/04 My thoughts are to get the sport 500's and not to rely... - Nismootc 17:52:14 05/03/04 Re: My thoughts are to get the sport 500's and not to rely... - kx12577 17:55:37 05/03/04 Re: Re: My thoughts are to get the sport 500's and not to rely... - Ravin 18:03:52 05/03/04 Good suggestion (n/m) - Nismootc 18:06:25 05/03/04 Gerald Greene, of Oakland, CA, was one of the 1st to have GD - Scotts94z32 18:06:54 05/03/04 Thankyou very much. That was exactly what I was - kx12577 18:14:07 05/03/04 email me - I don't want to give his info out here (n/m) - Scotts94z32 18:16:08 05/03/04 Re: Gerald Greene, of Oakland, CA, was one of the 1st to have GD - Ravin 18:15:46 05/03/04 i agree ..when u think about it for like 2seconds..it doesnt - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 18:33:21 05/03/04 Dyno-schymno. (How's that for technical terminolgy? :)) >>> - Scotts94z32 18:33:51 05/03/04 Re: Dyno-schymno. (How's that for technical terminolgy? :)) >>> - Ravin 19:15:15 05/03/04 gearing and awesome stock response... (n/m) - Scotts94z32 09:40:14 05/04/04 My 2 cents on the side by side test :) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 23:20:03 05/03/04 I DID point that out... :) Fair is fair... Love the gearing - Scotts94z32 09:30:17 05/04/04 thats weird, my 500's had WAY less lag than my stockers - CaptanZap 18:23:05 05/03/04 *shrug* I dunno, just reporting the observations, my friend. - Scotts94z32 18:34:27 05/03/04 i believe gerald and i have a very close set up, along with - CaptanZap 18:39:32 05/03/04 i agree again ..the difference is negligible .. (n/m) - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 18:34:32 05/03/04 Stock response verse modified STOCKER response - maybe - Scotts94z32 18:43:05 05/03/04 i'm not trying to argue with you - CaptanZap 19:15:27 05/03/04 Hmm... That is surprising. Did the car also have GD - neurozurgeon 18:23:35 05/03/04 I believe it does have the DPs at least, and if I recall - Scotts94z32 18:30:58 05/03/04 i guess people forget about what kojima said huh ?? - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 18:36:53 05/03/04 Yes, Gerald Greene is the first... and I saw his beast - SpeedyZX 18:27:14 05/03/04 Another great answer. Thankyou (n/m) - kx12577 18:32:59 05/03/04 Should have been way less. He might have issues - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:42:58 05/03/04 agreed. Like I said, no argument involved, observation only. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 20:56:56 05/03/04 id say its because those manifolds flow to much for those - Chris(NJ) 19:55:37 05/03/04 By the way, admin is oddly picky on when to delete... - Nismootc 17:59:30 05/03/04 shush (n/m) - CaptanZap 18:26:04 05/03/04 Re: By the way, admin is oddly picky on when to delete... - SactoTodd 18:27:19 05/03/04 i'll keep that in mind next time i have an extra Kit-Kat (n/m) - CaptanZap 18:32:53 05/03/04 ROFL! - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:47:10 05/03/04 Lol, so where do I fit in? - Snoguitar 18:52:59 05/03/04 If you're lucky, just one ;) (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 19:02:32 05/03/04 Ok, good. I was expecting two or three. (n/m) - Snoguitar 19:03:34 05/03/04 I'm not even gonna ask. (n/m) - Spee 19:13:01 05/03/04 hahahahahaha (n/m) - Spee 18:56:13 05/03/04 :) (n/m) - RSR 19:25:13 05/03/04 Sounds like we need another daytime mod, then. One - boileralum 23:53:33 05/03/04 :) (n/m) - JRH(KY) 07:42:02 05/04/04 Care to expound on that comment? (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 18:12:41 05/03/04 By the way... - ZigZag 18:28:19 05/03/04 Not yet - Chip(GMS Racing) 20:04:16 05/03/04 did you mean explain or expand??? - SL103 18:32:54 05/03/04 ex·pound v. ex·pound·ed, ex·pound·ing, ex·pounds - bb0ys (MA) 18:37:46 05/03/04 beat me to it (n/m) - CaptanZap 18:42:46 05/03/04 Gotta love the race to correct others :-) (n/m) - bb0ys (MA) 18:47:45 05/03/04 and my dang dial up made me lose (n/m) - CaptanZap 19:02:06 05/03/04 same here, lol (n/m) - ZPilot(Miami) 18:52:27 05/03/04 remind me to switch majors (n/m) - SL103 19:46:07 05/03/04 Thanks! (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 20:08:07 05/03/04 Hey Chip, hows my car coming along? Can you give me a ring? (n/m) - N20300TT 20:12:46 05/03/04 I just left you a voicemail. - Chip(GMS Racing) 12:01:13 05/04/04 Awesome! Good luck! - Spee 17:59:28 05/03/04 ok (n/m) - Nismootc 18:00:35 05/03/04 no doubt, that's a HOTT setup (n/m) - fourZero 23:05:16 05/03/04 VTB (n/m) - Spee 23:35:21 05/03/04 Just as I figured - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:38:52 05/03/04 LS1 torque with more on top? Try it and see... (n/m) - RSR 19:27:14 05/03/04 Great research Frank - Mike@AeroMODIFIER 20:57:32 05/03/04 It's no compariosn for your HKS2530's but it should be fun - kx12577 22:12:45 05/03/04 hehe... It will be a great setup none then less and your a - Mike@AeroMODIFIER 23:14:33 05/03/04
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